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Go Kart - Help sizing system

I am working with my 13 year old son to setup a electric go kart. We currently have a rolling kart and essentially need all the electrical components: Motor, Speed controller, Wiring, batteries, charger, charger port, foot pedal, key switch, fuse, etc...


The kart currently has a 60 tooth sprocket with a #35 chain. Also, the size tires on it are 11 - 11.5" in diameter.  I would like the kart to have some zip and top speed between 20 - 30mph. Additionally, I would like the battery life to last ~ 45 minutes or so.


I saw a previous kit that was assembled and wondering if this would be a good fit for my needs: https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KIT-159


Also, I would like to have a speed limiter, in the event the to speed is too high. I saw this part, and was wondering if this would be a good fit with the kit: https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=THR-ADJUSTER


One other nice to have, would be the option to connect 12v accessories(lights and/or horn). I believe the kit above has a converter included to address that, however I am not sure how the wiring works for that.


I am open to other kits or suggested changes. Please let me know your thoughts.


Thanks in advance!


Also, I'd like to add a voltmeter like: https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/productdetails_popup.asp?productcode=MET-120V-RED . For this, the speed limiter, & the 12v accessory converter I am not sure how the wiring would work. Is there anything you could point me to? Thx.

I ran some gear ratio calculations and found that with a 60 tooth axle sprocket and 11.5" wheels the top speed is around 17 MPH. For a top speed of 25 MPH an axle sprocket with around 40 teeth would be needed. Here are the calculations:


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It sounds like KIT-159 would work good for your project. The 22Ah batteries in this kit would provide around 60 minutes of ride time on flat ground.


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KIT-159 has a 3-position key switch which turns the power off, on, and activates reverse (off - on forward - on reverse). With a kit that has reverse relays such as KIT-159 the go kart has to be at a complete stop before switching from forward to reverse, or reverse to forward, otherwise the controller will become damaged.


If you do not need reverse then we could make a kit without reverse which would cost less. If you prefer toggle switches to a key switch we could make a kit like that also.


We can make a kit with two toggle switches for power and reverse along with a motor reversing contactor that would stop the motor between switching from forward to reverse. This type of kit would be more reliable than a kit with reverse relays because the chances of the controller being damaged from switching directions when the go kart was moving would be significantly lowered. The go kart would still need to be completely stopped before switching from forward to reverse, or reverse to forward, because the motor reversing contactor puts an electrical brake on the motor between its forward and reverse positions.


We can add a Voltmeter to any of our kits.


Please let us know your thoughts on which type of kit you would like. Non reversing? With key switch and reverse relays? With toggle switches and motor reversing contactor?

Thank you for your response! Prior to your reply, I was anxious to get moving so I made an order already. The kit-159 was not available due to the relays not being in stock. So, I basically bought each of the parts in kit-159 minus the relays. Regarding reverse,that is an important feature we would like to have. I am a bit unclear about how and why the relays are needed when using the key switch for reverse. You bring up a good point that I was not aware of, that if someone switches from forward to reverse while going it will damage the controller. If this is the case, I would want to eliminate that possibility and that would be my primary goal. Seems like one option may be to just wire the key switch I bought, to only go forward (i.e. - not connect a wire to reverse tab of the switch) and then add a reverse switch (https://www.electricscooterparts.com/reverse-switches.html) between the controller and motor. Would this work and achieve the goal? Alternatively, you mentioned toggle switches as an option, but I am unclear on how that would work, if relays are needed and if it helps prevent controller damage. Any additional insights and your recommendation on best option to solve the reversing solution would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I just placed a temporary shipping hold on your order in case we need to add a new part onto it, or cancel it so you can order a kit. I can remove this shipping hold at any time on your request. I just wanted to make sure that your order does not ship out before I provide this new information to you.

Our SWT-715 reverse switch is an okay option to add reverse to a go kart. This reverse switch requires a fair amount of force to turn the knob so it would be difficult to accidentally put into reverse. However the down side to this switch is that four thick gauge motor wires would need to be routed to and from it, so if it is a few feet away from the motor and controller then a lot of thick wire will be needed to wire it. It is also fairly large and not the easiest switch to mount.

Toggle and key switches are easy to install compared to our SWT-715 reverse switch.

One kit we have that is in stock and I think may be perfect for your project it KIT-361000-01. Here is the link to it: https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KIT-361000-01

KIT-361000-01 uses toggle switches for power and reverse which have thin gauge wires running between the switches and controller/relay. It also has an extremely heavy-duty reverse relay which applies an electrical brake to the motor between forward and reverse (it has a park position) which makes it very difficult to damage the controller if the switch is accidentally moved from forward to reverse while the kart is in motion. However this heavy-duty reverse relay is best suited for toggle switches and can not easily be used with a key switch. If absolutely necessary we could make this kit with a key switch as the power switch though. This would require a couple of extra Bosch type relays to wire to the key switch and some extra labor which would raise the price of the kit a little however it is possible.

We also have this same kit available with a key switch which is wired for off-on-reverse. The key switch has thin gauge wires between it and the controller/relays. It uses two Bosch type relays for reversing which do not provide a park mode between direction positions so with this setup it would be easier to damage the controller if the key was turned to the reverse position when the kart was in motion. We could also modify this kit to have a key switch for power and a toggle switch for reverse. This kit cost a little less than the 01 kit because it does not have the heavy-duty reverse relay in it.

This is our kit # KIT-361000-02. Here is the link to it: https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KIT-361000-02

Please have a look at these kits and let us know how you would like to proceed?

Great, thank you!  In this case, I like this option.  https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KIT-361000-01

However, I actually already have the batteries. Therefore, would you be able to make the same kit minus the 3 batteries? If so, this will allow me to select the proper wire lengths for the kit and I will purchase that. And we can cancel the order that you placed on hold.


Thank you!


Yes that is no problem. I will make a version of the 01 kit without batteries. I will post a link to it here in a few minutes.
Here is a link to the kit without batteries: https://cart.electricscooterparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KIT-361000-01-NB

I cancelled your previous order and refunded the payment back to your PayPal account.

Please let us know if you have any questions, or would like any changes made to the kit.
I just noticed that your previous order had a Throttle Top Speed Adjustable Limiter in it. If you still want this part then you could order it along with the kit and we would wire it to work with the kit.

Great! Thank you for creating the new kit. I will hold off on the speed limiter and see. If I feel it's needed, I can come back and order it in the future.


Thank you!

I forgot to mention that I did purchased the latest kit you assembled for me. Thank you!

I see your order for the kit item # KIT-361000-01-NB in our system. We will start building it on Monday. Thank you for your order - we appreciate your business.

Hi, I am wondering what the status of my order is. Has it shipped? If not, when should I expect it to? Thank you.
Hi Matt, I just talked with the technician who builds our kits and he is working on it right now and expects to have it finished and shipped out today. The 4th of July slowed down our kit building this week due to the holiday. I will check on the status of your kit later today and give you another update.
Yes, I just received a notification that it shipped. Thank you so much for checking on it.

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